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Old 11-03-2008, 05:54 AM
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Japan is heavily under the influence of the USA as is S Korea and Sweden developed with Europe with a millenia long presence of the Church-
Japan would be a theocracy if it weren't for it's relationship with the US?

Just because Sweden's history involves control by the church doesn't mean that somehow the church is responsible for it's secularity.

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The church is not our master. The US is not a 'christian nation'. Giving the church credit for allowing secularity, AGAIN, is like giving white people 'credit' for allowing black people equal rights.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:29 AM
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:25 AM
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Japan would be a theocracy if it weren't for it's relationship with the US?

Just because Sweden's history involves control by the church doesn't mean that somehow the church is responsible for it's secularity.



The church is not our master. The US is not a 'christian nation'. Giving the church credit for allowing secularity, AGAIN, is like giving white people 'credit' for allowing black people equal rights.
the japs worshipped hirohito as a god, jentzer..
the chiurch was the final seat of authority during the middle ages-subsuming the role of Rome-
Luther a religious figure btw worked with secular authorities to liberate Europe-the blax never effectively rebelled or even played a role in their own emancipation-they were freed by white people.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:51 PM
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the guys a cretin and a moron and a worthless loser-80% of the people need to stfu because 80% of humnaity has nothing more of value to say than examining in depth their toilet and sexual habits-clergy was always the seat of authority before we had mere humans assuming the role of god-and clergy did a better job setting up social systems and caring for the public health=if it werent for theJudeo Christian values surrounding hygeine cicvlization itself couldnt survive-
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:29 PM
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I watched your video...... and although I totally disagree with it, and although i believe that Jesus died on the cross for our salvation, I also believe you have the right to your oppinion.

Tell me if I could give you a logical and a mathematical reason for the existance of God would you be willing to change your view on the subject or would you prefer me to keep it to myself.

I respect your right to decide for yourself to either hear what I have to say or to tell me to keep it to myself.

A man once said, that true freedom was fighting for the right for someone to yell at the top of his voice something that you would spend a lifetime fighting against.

I believe in freedom.

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Old 11-11-2008, 07:35 PM
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Actually, Im not an athiest. I just think people look at God in the wrong way. Example, given what Jesus preached, do you think he would be more forgiving of a man that loved another man, or the man that hated them for it?
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Both are wrong.

God calls one man sleeping with another man an abomination.

However, God also says that the greatest gift given to us is love which ould indi***e to me that the worst thing is hate.

I do not hate homosexuals I hate homosexuality.

What many christians have gotten away from is that they are suppose to hate the sin but love the sinner.

True christianity is beautiful, however, what most people today as christianity is an abomination to it.

Priests and ministers stealing money from their congregations, sexually molesting children inside their churches.

These are evil men being used to keep people from God.

Jesus said, we fight not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities in high places.

These days, evil is winning.

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Old 11-12-2008, 11:01 AM
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Jesus hung out with sinners. A modern Jesus would make friends with homosexuals and AIDs victims. He would attempt to show them a better way, yes, but first and foremost, he would be their friend. THAT is how Christians should go about conversion, however most of them want to condem the behavior which puts the person on the defensive right off the bat. Then Christians condem the person. You will never save a person that way.

Oh, and I really hate that FAKE friendship that Christians seem to be so fond of. You know, that fake smile, fake handshake. They seem to be doing it because they have to, not because they want to. 2nd Timothy talks about Modern Fake Christians. Good read.
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I agree with DT - Christ led by example- not by condemning.



However- your blanket statements of Christians are a bit surprising. When did you start buying into Stereotypes promoted by mass media?
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