Bush: Total Fuck Up? - Page 2

Dick Tator · #11 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick

Yep, committing genocide against a nation that had jacksquat to do with 9/11 would've been a "statement" alright. A statement that

That's minor compared to:

his absolute inability to stop illegals crossing the border. Rove and Co. got this strange idea that if they played nice with Mexicans et al they'd all spontaneous combust into Republicans. Didn't happen, and now the Repubs are on their way to irrelevance, at least as the party is currently configured. Demographics is destiny, and our "destiny" is Obama in 2008 and what is shaping up to be an absolute minimum of a generation of Democrat control of ALL branches of government once the 2010 census count is in. (McAmnesty is just as retarded as Bushin this area, but its too late now anyways)
listening to pieces of dogshit like Ken Adelman, Mr. Cakewalk himself, ya know the guy that's now endorsed Obama...but that's how neocons operate.
wussying out on social security.
his stupid unwillingness to see that what passes for "free trade" is killing us, probably thanks to Cheney...well, financially we're China's little bitch now, and I see this causing no end of trouble
tearing around the globe like a six year old on a sugar high, handing out "defense treaty" commitments like tic-tacs. Commitments that aren't in our national interest, and that we cannot afford.

I like this Patrick guy... we need more Libertarians on here.... Theyre the only ones with any brains!

**Freedom&Liberty** · #12 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick

Yep, committing genocide against a nation that had jacksquat to do with 9/11 would've been a "statement" alright. A statement that

Okay, so maybe we should have leveled Iran. My main point is that if we're going to commit to war we should follow through in a decisive and deadly manner. I'm not even convinced that Iraq should be called a war at this point. All we seem to be doing is babysitting.

Dick Tator · #13 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty

Okay, so maybe we should have leveled Iran. My main point is that if we're going to commit to war we should follow through in a decisive and deadly manner. I'm not even convinced that Iraq should be called a war at this point. All we seem to be doing is babysitting.

Iran? How about 11 of the terrorists were Saudi? Did everyone forget that? I guess so, because they are our biggest trade partner in the Middle East.... fucking insane!

**patrick** · #14 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Tator

I like this Patrick guy... we need more Libertarians on here.... Theyre the only ones with any brains!

Actually my political beliefs are such an incoherent train wreck I've given up even pretending consistency. I'm basically a Buchananite in foreign affairs, including stuff like border controls and the rogering the average American has taken at the hands of things like NAFTA. I'm more small - l libertarian than not in some social issues like drug legalization, but there's some stuff where I clearly break with the capital - L Libertarian Party, particularly where two parties clearly do NOT meet on terms of equality, e.g. employer/employee relations, and probably stuff like food inspection.

In sum, every post I make should basically be stamped "FOR AMUSEMENT PURPOSES ONLY," since if weren't amused here I certainly wouldn't hang around. I sometimes think people don't really read what I say given my tendency for self-contradiction.

**SAMSON** · #15 (**permalink**) 10-30-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick

Actually my political beliefs are such an incoherent train wreck I've given up even pretending consistency. I'm basically a Buchananite in foreign affairs, including stuff like border controls and the rogering the average American has taken at the hands of things like NAFTA. I'm more small - l libertarian than not in some social issues like drug legalization, but there's some stuff where I clearly break with the capital - L Libertarian Party, particularly where two parties clearly do NOT meet on terms of equality, e.g. employer/employee relations, and probably stuff like food inspection.

In sum, every post I make should basically be stamped "FOR AMUSEMENT PURPOSES ONLY," since if weren't amused here I certainly wouldn't hang around. I sometimes think people don't really read what I say given my tendency for self-contradiction.

What?

**Freedom&Liberty** · #16 (**permalink**) 10-30-2008, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Tator

Iran? How about 11 of the terrorists were Saudi? Did everyone forget that? I guess so, because they are our biggest trade partner in the Middle East.... fucking insane!

All I know is we should have leveled some Muslim country. Saudi works as well as any.

Plastik · #17 (**permalink**) 10-30-2008, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty

All I know is we should have leveled some Muslim country. Saudi works as well as any.

You know that would cause a war between us and the EU dont you? You don't think for a second that the liberally sensitive Europe wouldn't view us exterminating a "Muslim country" as the 2nd holocaust? They already view us as beligerant war mongering racists.

We have the most powerful military of any single country sure, but Europe (Plus Canada, Japan, Russia etc.) is not a single country and it would be us against the world the minute we initiate a genocide on another country and we aren't winning that war.

**Freedom&Liberty** · #18 (**permalink**) 10-30-2008, 05:42 PM

I don't give a shit what the EU thinks of the US. There are well over a billion Muslims, so taking out one country wouldn't be genocide. If we had leveled a Muslim country right after 9/11, other countries would have whined, but none would have done anything. It's too late now, we've already show how passive we've become. BTW - nearly two thirds of Iraq has been handed over to the Iraqi's. It sure sounds like we're winning.

**hadit** · #19 (**permalink**) 10-30-2008, 06:18 PM

Bush forgot that the president has to handle the federal budget as well as the military. He focused so much on the threat from terrorism that he neglected to rein in Congress' drunken borrowing and spending spree. Maybe he truly thought that terrorism was the biggest threat we were facing, but with the blank check he had after 9/11, he could have taken some steps to strengthen our long-term economic stability. He didn't. I don't, however, believe that he is the worst president we've ever had, having lived through Carter.

I'm still waiting for the presidential candidate that will make energy independence (aka utilizing everything we control) the cornerstone of his campaign.

***Savannah*** · #20 (**permalink**) 10-30-2008, 07:49 PM

God forbid another presidency like Carter's. Jesus - he just about totally ruined the US economy.

I think Palin's pretty much into using our resources to cut down on foreign dependence.

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