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I note that none of the lo***ions you have listed as being rich sources of domestic oil include Arizona. I think you should take a trip over to Galveston and lay out on the Beach with all the Tarballs before you advo***e drilling offshore CA or FL. Or, maybe we should build a new 400,000 bbl/d refinery near your home in Phonix?

While I agree that our resources should be developed, I'm rather surprised that you would hold the ChiComs as a good counter example to "Liberal," (a.k.a. Democratic as opposed to Dictatorial?) policies. The Commies have not exactly been the best environmental stewards.

As far as N. Dakota, Green River (WY, CO, UT) area shale deposites, and Alaska's North Slope are concerned: They ARE being and have been developed. You have heard of the Alaskan Oil Pipeline, right?

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How long does it take to develop new areas?

Building a Big New Refinery Next to Powerboss's House should take as long as the remaining time on his mortgage.

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I note that none of the lo***ions you have listed as being rich sources of domestic oil include Arizona. I think you should take a trip over to Galveston and lay out on the Beach with all the Tarballs before you advo***e drilling offshore CA or FL. Or, maybe we should build a new 400,000 bbl/d refinery near your home in Phonix?[quote]

Or he can head to Santa Barbara, and lay out on the beaches there....which are all completely absent of those tar balls. In sight of drilling rigs, no less. If we can manage it there, we can manage it in the gulf too...even off florida. Or we could just let the chinese have it all, which is what we're doing now.

No they have'nt....but they're drilling in our own back yard, where we can't, thanks to the libs in congress, and the radical enviro groups they pander too.

Shale deposits are not being utilized, thanks mostly to congress.... Alaska can be developed further by drilling in ANWR. But of course, blocked again by congress. The very same congress that's blocked the construction of new nuclear facilities.

We don't need the govt to solve anything....they just need to get the hell out of the way, and the market will take care of itself. World wide demand for petroleum is only going to increase, and as long as our own govt continues to artificially suppress supplies, it's just going to get more, and more expensive.

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Hell yeah it does!!!!!!!

So there IS a magic wand...he just chooses not to wave it?

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Um....did they finally get ALL the oil off the beach after the last spill? I don't really know: What I do know is that If you Drill for Oil, Then Oil will be Spilled.

Shale deposites are not being utilized because they have been very costly to develop. Shell and Exxon Created Boom Towns in the area that collapsed during the 80's, and now the locals are reluctant to let them in to create the same problems. The same goes for ANWR.

Outside the minds of Conservative Talk Show Hosts, the rate of developing new energy sources in the USA has little to do with "Liberal" environmental policies, and everything to do with economic and technical reality.

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I may be a liberal, but I am a young one. Who believes in change and believes in trying to make life better for people.

I think you have a point, I think with the current situation being as dire as it is, something needs to be done. If we need to drill into our own supply, so be it. BUT!! At the same time more research and development needs to be done towards alternate fuel sources. Fast. Why can't we pull a Doc Brown and find a way to convert our trash into fuel?? That would be fabulous.

I do think that if we are to tap into our own resources ( and honestly, why shouldn't we rather than pay through the nose for oil from countries that hate us) we need to do it in the most environmentall conscious way possible.

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"Fast"...see, this is exactly why no one really wants to build a refinery next to Powerboss's house in Phoenix: Once they finish building it, cars will be running on Hydrogen or some other fuel derived from a non-oil source.

The other reason its a little silly to Mimmic The ChiComs is that the cheaper we make oil, the less incentive there will be to develop (FAST) alternative fuel sources.

Finally, Canada is estimated to have oil (sand) deposites equal to Saudi Arabia, and is furiously developing them. We are the best market for this resource: Why knock ourselves out drilling off Miami Beach?

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Has the price risen to a level where these sources would now be economically feasible? Would OPEC increase production, dropping prices, if threatened by American oil? The Canadians are using shale successfully. Why can't we?

A. The price of oil will peak shortly before you see reasonably priced cars that do not burn fossil fuels.

B. Who cares about what OPEC does? They know if they increase their prices, they will only help create (see "A") above.

C. Exactly. Canada is practically part of the USA, and is successfully developing their oil (sand) resources: Why SHOULD we?

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