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Old 06-12-2008, 11:10 PM
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its a plot?
Of course.

Unlike the Government, companies must plan how they will make money in the future.
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I saw on the news tonight that Exxon Mobile is getting out of retail because it's not profitable enough. 800+ gas stations will be sold.
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Let's use our ANWR as an example here. It encompasses some 19 million acres. The area where oil can drilled comprises approximately 2000 acres, or about 0.01 percent of the whole. Drilling won't destroy anything.
they only need one hole to drill out a huge field, so you cant compare like this.
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they only need one hole to drill out a huge field, so you cant compare like this.
WTF are you talking about. That we can take a large amount of oil from under the ground without unduly scaring the land topside?

That's what we're saying.

The problem with most environmentalists groups is that they are opposed to the use of any of the earths resources to benefit mankind.

It's stupid to think or expect that man can exist on a planet without having some impact.
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they only need one hole to drill out a huge field, so you cant compare like this.
Point is, drilling in ANWR will not destroy the place. Your situation may differ, but political opposition here in this country makes no sense.
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Point is, drilling in ANWR will not destroy the place. Your situation may differ, but political opposition here in this country makes no sense.
You forgot to say "Liberal Democratic Party's Policy 'makes no sense.'"

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Yes. Are you seriously proposing that Our Congress would block domestic expansion of domestic petroleum if their constituants had to wait in line for gas?
They don't seem to be in much of a hurry to remove the roadblocks they put in place to prevent domestic production, do they? In the face of 4$+ per gallon gasoline, their own presidential candidate stated he favored higher prices. It was Clinton that vetoed legislation allowing the drilling in ANWR, it was Clinton that set aside most of the west coast as an area where oil exploration is not allowed. It is the democrats that each and every year attach a rider to the budget preventing the lease of federal lands for the development of shale oil.


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Because, you sound like him: constantly trying to remain revelant by demonizing "liberal=democrat policy."
If you'll look through my posts I have been just as down on Republicans. Often times for the same reasons. There have been only two self-identified-as-conservatives on this site that stated they will not vote for McCain. I'm one of them. I've bashed McCain in this very thread.

The only thing 'dogmatic' around here is your rather predictable accusations of conservative dogma. Being opposed to liberal policies does not make one doe-eyed follower of Limbaugh, or any other conservative radio, or tv commentator.
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Um....The White House = Republican
I don't believe I've been particularly kind to Bush either.



Its ECONOMICS buddy.

As the availability of alternative fuels rises, the financial risks of building/expanding refineries rises.
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The only reason most of these 'alternative fuels' exist is because of govt subsidies. If they're all that....the energy panacea of the future, they would stand on their own two feet, as opposed to requiring 50 cents per gallon of your, and my money to produce.
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Its ECONOMICS buddy.

As the availability of alternative fuels rises, the financial risks of building/expanding refineries rises.
The only reason most of these 'alternative fuels' exist is because of govt subsidies. If they're all that....the energy panacea of the future, they would stand on their own two feet, as opposed to requiring 50 cents per gallon of your, and my money to produce.[/quote]

Well, chicken or the egg: how will they "stand on their own two feet" TODAY if they are FUTURE alternatives? I for one am willing to invest in the start-up costs of alternative biofuels, and I'm astonished that since these are DOMESTIC sources that provide AMERICAN jobs, and "Keep American Dollars in America, you are not frothing rabidly at the mouth demanding that we develop them.
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The only reason most of these 'alternative fuels' exist is because of govt subsidies. If they're all that....the energy panacea of the future, they would stand on their own two feet, as opposed to requiring 50 cents per gallon of your, and my money to produce.
Well, chicken or the egg: how will they "stand on their own two feet" TODAY if they are FUTURE alternatives? I for one am willing to invest in the start-up costs of alternative biofuels, and I'm astonished that since these are DOMESTIC sources that provide AMERICAN jobs, and "Keep American Dollars in America, you are not frothing rabidly at the mouth demanding that we develop them.[/quote]

And why do we need alternative fuels?
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