david deustch holds forth on Global warming - Page 2

**Freedom&Liberty** · #11 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 01:43 PM

Climate science is far too young to be taken seriously. For the last 100 years, scientists have thought they new enough to predict ice ages and warming and every one of them has been wrong. It's about a 30 year cycle of cooling and warming. It's perfectly natural and not some pending ***astrophic event. Computer models and climate change committees don't suddenly nullify a centuries worth of scientific bad guesses.

***fat mike*** · #12 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 04:00 PM

i agree-i dont take ANYTHING scientists say that seriously-my late father was a scientist

***oki*** · #13 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Freedom&Liberty

Climate science is far too young to be taken seriously. For the last 100 years, scientists have thought they new enough to predict ice ages and warming and every one of them has been wrong. It's about a 30 year cycle of cooling and warming. It's perfectly natural and not some pending ***astrophic event. Computer models and climate change committees don't suddenly nullify a centuries worth of scientific bad guesses.

id say, if they cant predict anything, amateurs certainly cant. what on earth makes you believe that 30 year cycle stuff then?

in the end theres only recorded data, which becomes only more and more, and the analisys of that data. its not hard to conclude that sometihng is wrong then. and if tehres teh slightest chance that we could be causing it, and more importantly, reduce the problem, then why on earth shouldnt we try?

**SAMSON** · #14 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by oki

id say, if they cant predict anything, amateurs certainly cant. what on earth makes you believe that 30 year cycle stuff then?

in the end theres only recorded data, which becomes only more and more, and the analisys of that data. its not hard to conclude that sometihng is wrong then. and if tehres teh slightest chance that we could be causing it, and more importantly, reduce the problem, then why on earth shouldnt we try?

I agree oki.

Next time swim, or take a sailboat to Japan.

**Freedom&Liberty** · #15 (**permalink**) 05-27-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oki

id say, if they cant predict anything, amateurs certainly cant. what on earth makes you believe that 30 year cycle stuff then?

Here oki, read and learn.

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In 1902, the Los Angeles Times reported that the great glaciers were undergoing "their final annihilation" due to rising temperatures. But by 1923, it was the ice that was doing the annihilating: "Scientist says Arctic ice will wipe out Canada," the Chicago Tribune declared on Page 1.

So it was curtains for the Canadians? Uh, not quite. In 1953, The New York Times announced that "nearly all the great ice sheets are in retreat." Yet no sooner did our neighbors to the north breathe a sigh of relief than it turned out they weren't off the hook after all: "The rapid advance of some glaciers," wrote Lowell Ponte in "The Cooling," his 1976 bestseller, "has threatened human settlements in Alaska, Iceland, Canada, China, and the Soviet Union." And now? "Arctic Ice Is Melting at Record Level, Scientists Say," the Times reported in 2002.

Over the years, the alarmists have veered from an obsession with lethal global cooling around the turn of the 20th century to lethal global warming a generation later, back to cooling in the 1970s and now to warming once again. You don't have to be a scientist to realize that all these competing narratives of doom can't be true. Or to wonder whether any of them are.
Climate of fear - The Boston Globe

Now do you see the trend?

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in the end theres only recorded data, which becomes only more and more, and the analisys of that data. its not hard to conclude that sometihng is wrong then. and if tehres teh slightest chance that we could be causing it, and more importantly, reduce the problem, then why on earth shouldnt we try?

Because they not only have no idea if a problem even exists, they'd have no idea how to fix it if it did. Have you ever heard the expression, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

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