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Old 02-15-2008, 01:39 AM
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Excellent. Both of you.

Whatever happened to Java Girl?
I think he must have got tired of Dngr spanking him on this.
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I'm not a climate zealot either...but I know satellites. And what is not discussed by the IPCC is orbital station keeping maneuvers which can affect the 'fudge' factors they apply to the raw data. All satellites have a number of small, (5n or smaller), thrusters, and a supply of fuel, (usually hydrazine), to maintain the spacecraft in it's nominal orbit over the planned life of the mission. On some orbits, the MSU will be looking at a thicker swath of the atmosphere, than others. It changes, sometimes orbit to orbit. The corrective factor they apply to these measurements is always positive, and constant, and as far as I know, do not take into account the actual orbital parameters of the satellites in question when the measurements of temperature are taken.

Worse, they applied their fudges, and guess what? The measured, (ha ha, wink wink), temperature anomalies from the ground still do not agree with satellite measurements, which is why the refuse to include them now. The global warming models predict temperatures to increase over time, in a non linear fashion...which is something they keep saying will happen, (since early in the history of the IPCC), but so far hasn't.....hence the discrepancies.
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Whatever happened to Java Girl?
I think he must have got tired of Dngr spanking him on this.
He ran off....it was a combination of interesting Farsi rap, and semi hot Tajik girls that did him in.

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Wait...maybe Kurdish girls.


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How's the snow pack in the Sierra's this year? I have'nt checked...though I've been assuming the wetter than normal weather in the Pacific Northwest results in more snow in CA.....but this is being a weird year.
Last report I saw was above average with the wettest part of the season still to come. I know that before our last series of storms, we had already exceeded last years totals
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Last report I saw was above average with the wettest part of the season still to come. I know that before our last series of storms, we had already exceeded last years totals
Not sure about the snowpack, but the Arctic ice is back.
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Not sure about the snowpack, but the Arctic ice is back.
thanks for clearing that up.... (and i'm still not sure how I've managed to miss such a hot thread - blaming it on the combination of interesting Farsi rap, and semi hot Tajik girls or maybe they were kurdish)
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Not sure about the snowpack, but the Arctic ice is back.
You mean I sent my donation to "Save the Polar Bears" for nothing?
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Wait...maybe Kurdish girls.

I'm pleased to see that Dngrmse has managed to derail the 2,869th Global Warming Thread with some really hawt belly dancing.
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Nothing?--you got Gore a Nobel and an Oscar.
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