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And make money selling Carbon Indulgences...errrr...Credits.
Certainly you would'nt begrudge the Tireless Eco Warriors a bit of spending money! Not that they'll really need to worry about carbon all that much. The sun is still rather.....dead. There should, at this stage of the cycle, be several sunspots visible.

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Well i do believe there is gw, and to me it has nothing to do with who has wealth and who is poor. I can't even understand how that comes into play?
One (amusing) explanation is here. The bottom line is that most warming "solutions" have the effect of an income transfer from the developed to the developing world, as I've argued here, here, here and here. As John Ray at Greenie Watch observes:
Many people would like to be kind to others so Leftists exploit that with their nonsense about equality. Most people want a clean, green environment so Greenies exploit that by inventing all sorts of far-fetched threats to the environment. But for both, the real motive is to promote themselves as wiser and better than everyone else, truth regardless.

Global warming has taken the place of Communism as an absurdity that "liberals" will defend to the death regardless of the evidence showing its folly. Evidence never has mattered to real Leftists.
Even if not the motive, the effect of Kyoto and similar policies is "a tax on Western Civ."
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the effect of Kyoto and similar policies is[/url] "a tax on Western Civ."

BINGO.

The U.N. has been seeking a way to implement a global tax to support their bureaucracy for decades - and has been using the Global Warming...errr...Climate Change as the justification. It was The Not So Hidden Agenda at The Junket in Bali.
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As John Ray at Greenie Watch observes:
Many people would like to be kind to others so Leftists exploit that with their nonsense about equality. Most people want a clean, green environment so Greenies exploit that by inventing all sorts of far-fetched threats to the environment. But for both, the real motive is to promote themselves as wiser and better than everyone else, truth regardless.
Thanks for the quote NOFP....I'm gonna use it on a backpacking website that just posted a bit about blaming a particular mountain species possible decline on climate change
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Thanks for the quote NOFP....I'm gonna use it on a backpacking website that just posted a bit about blaming a particular mountain species possible decline on climate change
If you are battling the green weenies, please link it for us so we can enjoy.
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No, it's not a battle, it's a clean site and the guy I was discussing this with is a well respected backcountry ranger
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One suggests that, in order to remedy the Lack of Sunspots, that The Goreacle, The U.N., and the Nobel Peace Prize Committee launch themselves into the sun. Their impact should result in a rather significant grease spot.


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Certainly you would'nt begrudge the Tireless Eco Warriors a bit of spending money! Not that they'll really need to worry about carbon all that much. The sun is still rather.....dead. There should, at this stage of the cycle, be several sunspots visible.

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Something to think about, for me being a believer that the earths temp is changing and this show coming on thurs night explains why i care about the temp.
National Geographic Channel TV Schedule - Six Degrees Could Change the World: Six Degrees Could Change the World [TV-PG Ratings N/A]
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I believe the only disagreement between the debaters is whether humans are the cause. I think there's a concensus that the global temp is rising (correct me if im wrong).
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