DebateAnything.com  

Go Back   DebateAnything.com > The Debate Lounge > Science & Technology

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-31-2006, 07:01 PM
boedicca's Avatar
High Bitch
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The Land of Funk
Posts: 9,000
My Mood:
boedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond reputeboedicca has a reputation beyond repute
Default The Ethics of Experimenting on Gay Sheep

Martina Navratilova, some scientists, and gay rights activists think it is Inhumane to alter the hormones of gay rams in order to reprogram their sexual orientation. But how do they know that the Gay Rams wouldn't like to be Straight? Given that the main activity of breeding rams is to boink, wouldn't they prefer a wider selection of partners which being hetero would enable?



SCIENTISTS are conducting experiments to change the sexuality of “gay” sheep in a programme that critics fear could pave the way for breeding out homosexuality in humans.

The technique being developed by American researchers adjusts the hormonal balance in the brains of homosexual rams so that they are more inclined to mate with ewes.

It raises the prospect that pregnant women could one day be offered a treatment to reduce or eliminate the chance that their offspring will be homosexual. Experts say that, in theory, the “straightening” procedure on humans could be as simple as a hormone supplement for mothers-to-be, worn on the skin like an anti-smoking nicotine patch.

The research, at Oregon State University in the city of Corvallis and at the Oregon Health and Science University in Portland, has caused an outcry. Martina Navratilova, the lesbian tennis player who won Wimbledon nine times, and scientists and gay rights campaigners in Britain have called for the project to be abandoned.

Navratilova defended the “right” of sheep to be gay. She said: “How can it be that in the year 2006 a major university would host such homophobic and cruel experiments?” She said gay men and lesbians would be “deeply offended” by the social impli***ions of the tests.

But the researchers argue that the work is valid, shedding light on the “broad question” of what determines sexual orientation. They insist the work is not aimed at “curing” homosexuality.

Approximately one ram in 10 prefers to mount other rams rather than mate with ewes, reducing its value to a farmer. Initially, the publicly funded project aimed to improve the productivity of herds. ...


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...524408,00.html

Last edited by boedicca; 12-31-2006 at 07:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-31-2006, 08:34 PM
flaming_liberal's Avatar
Cayate tu boca, puta!
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 735
flaming_liberal will become famous soon enoughflaming_liberal will become famous soon enough
Default

Who would want to be gay?
If homosexuality can be eliminated without any negative side effects, so what?
It just proves that it's not a choice.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2007, 01:19 AM
Jinei's Avatar
Discussion Leader
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Long Beach, California
Posts: 1,072
Jinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boedicca View Post
Martina Navratilova, some scientists, and gay rights activists think it is Inhumane to alter the hormones of gay rams in order to reprogram their sexual orientation. But how do they know that the Gay Rams wouldn't like to be Straight? Given that the main activity of breeding rams is to boink, wouldn't they prefer a wider selection of partners which being hetero would enable?



SCIENTISTS are conducting experiments to change the sexuality of “gay” sheep in a programme that critics fear could pave the way for breeding out homosexuality in humans.

The technique being developed by American researchers adjusts the hormonal balance in the brains of homosexual rams so that they are more inclined to mate with ewes.

It raises the prospect that pregnant women could one day be offered a treatment to reduce or eliminate the chance that their offspring will be homosexual. Experts say that, in theory, the “straightening” procedure on humans could be as simple as a hormone supplement for mothers-to-be, worn on the skin like an anti-smoking nicotine patch.

The research, at Oregon State University in the city of Corvallis and at the Oregon Health and Science University in Portland, has caused an outcry. Martina Navratilova, the lesbian tennis player who won Wimbledon nine times, and scientists and gay rights campaigners in Britain have called for the project to be abandoned.

Navratilova defended the “right” of sheep to be gay. She said: “How can it be that in the year 2006 a major university would host such homophobic and cruel experiments?” She said gay men and lesbians would be “deeply offended” by the social impli***ions of the tests.

But the researchers argue that the work is valid, shedding light on the “broad question” of what determines sexual orientation. They insist the work is not aimed at “curing” homosexuality.

Approximately one ram in 10 prefers to mount other rams rather than mate with ewes, reducing its value to a farmer. Initially, the publicly funded project aimed to improve the productivity of herds. ...


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...524408,00.html
I'm pro-scientific research in all fields, but I can't help but feal that the product of this research will make a dicision for the child that will last a life-time. What if the child (later in life) wants to be gay? The parent would go so far as to give the child no choice but to be straight? Even if the parent was anti-gay; even if I was anti-gay, I wouldn't make that dicision. I'd trust that my child would do what he or she felt was right; be it homo or hetero sexuality.
__________________
Things to remember in Debate:
"People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons. The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs."
- Carl Sagan

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2007, 02:01 AM
SAMSON's Avatar
Abominable Troll
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Where the Deer & Antelpoe Play
Posts: 26,639
Blog Entries: 2
SAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable Salami
Send a message via AIM to SAMSON
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinei View Post
What if the child (later in life) wants to be gay? The parent would go so far as to give the child no choice but to be straight? Even if the parent was anti-gay; even if I was anti-gay, I wouldn't make that dicision. I'd trust that my child would do what he or she felt was right; be it homo or hetero sexuality.
Ridiculousness.

The time to stamp out gay tendencies is before kids hit puberty, not after.

I didn't expend my resources so that I could spend my golden years bouncing my son's fudgepacking "partner" on my knee.

Homophobically,
Samson
__________________
Banned Before Bored
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2007, 03:16 AM
Jinei's Avatar
Discussion Leader
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Long Beach, California
Posts: 1,072
Jinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAMSON View Post
I didn't expend my resources so that I could spend my golden years bouncing my son's fudgepacking "partner" on my knee.
So you would influence your child to be straight? No, not influence - force. And just because you're homophobic? Imagine, if they can influence a child to be straight, they could influence them to be gay, if prompted. Why can't kids be born the way they are these days?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAMSON View Post
Homophobically,
Samson
You're afraid of gay people?
__________________
Things to remember in Debate:
"People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons. The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs."
- Carl Sagan

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2007, 04:01 AM
SAMSON's Avatar
Abominable Troll
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Where the Deer & Antelpoe Play
Posts: 26,639
Blog Entries: 2
SAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable Salami
Send a message via AIM to SAMSON
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinei View Post
So you would influence your child to be straight? No, not influence - force.
Exactly.
__________________
Banned Before Bored
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2007, 04:47 AM
Jinei's Avatar
Discussion Leader
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Long Beach, California
Posts: 1,072
Jinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinei View Post
So you would influence your child to be straight? No, not influence - force.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAMSON View Post
Exactly.
There you go folks, welcome to a world where you can't be born the way you are (or way God made you).
__________________
Things to remember in Debate:
"People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons. The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs."
- Carl Sagan

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2007, 05:09 AM
SAMSON's Avatar
Abominable Troll
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Where the Deer & Antelpoe Play
Posts: 26,639
Blog Entries: 2
SAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable SalamiSAMSON Abominable Salami
Send a message via AIM to SAMSON
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinei View Post
There you go folks, welcome to a world where you can't be born the way you are (or way God made you).
Yes Folks: You are on Planet Earth.
__________________
Banned Before Bored
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2007, 06:43 AM
angelfire's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,838
angelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond reputeangelfire has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I think we cant stop studying. Its madness, the studying. Madness!!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2007, 07:04 AM
Jinei's Avatar
Discussion Leader
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Long Beach, California
Posts: 1,072
Jinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud ofJinei has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAMSON View Post
Yes Folks: You are on Planet Earth.
The Earth is what we make it. Doesn't have to be that way.
__________________
Things to remember in Debate:
"People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons. The last way for skeptics to get the attention of bright, curious, intelligent people is to belittle or condescend or to show arrogance toward their beliefs."
- Carl Sagan

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
British Oil Workers Sacked for Simulated Sex With Sacrificial Sheep User10539783 Rule Britannia 5 01-04-2008 11:00 PM
Psychoic Mutant Sheep SAMSON Books and Movie Reviews 1 10-19-2007 06:04 AM
More on the New New Ethics of The Dems boedicca Political & Government 3 06-14-2007 08:30 PM
The New New Ethics of the Dems boedicca Political & Government 7 06-05-2007 07:11 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0