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Old 09-17-2007, 02:11 PM
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The centerpiece of Clinton's plan is the so-called "individual mandate," requiring everyone to have health insurance — just as most states require drivers to purchase auto insurance. Rival John Edwards has also offered a plan that includes an individual mandate, while the proposal outlined by Barack Obama does not.

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The key word here is require. I don't see the word FREE or Free at the point of service anywhere.

It's another Helmet law, seatbelt law, auto insurance law. This isn't health care reform, it's just another law heaped on the people so that the government can punish us for non compliance. You watch, if this thing goes into law the state will seize children whose parents don't provide insurance for their children. Then we'll have a 21 century version of Hitler's youth army. It's all about the people being controled by the state. It sure as hell isn't an "American Health Choices Plan"

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Aides said Clinton will propose several specific measures to pay for her plan, including an end to some of the Bush-era tax cuts for people making more than $250,000 per year. Edwards has vowed to completely repeal the tax cuts for high earners to pay for the cost of his plan, estimated at $90 billion-$120 billion per year, while Obama would pay for his plan in part by letting the tax cuts expire in 2010.
Yes lets give the gov't more money

I wonder how many lose their jobs and need to find their own gov't subsidized health insurance as a result of this plan.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:19 PM
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Works for me. The older I'm getting the more I'm inclining to totalitarianism, anyway. A benign fascism like they've got in Singapore sounds better and better every day. Though Commando Supremo Clinton just doesn't have the same ring as Commando Supremo Mussolini. Plus I don't think she could work a crowd as well...

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A benign fascism like they've got in Singapore sounds better and better every day.

There is no such thing as Benign Fascism.

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All the dems use this "Bush tax cut repeal" as a bank account to finance their socialism. There is no bank account. It's money that hasn't been collected yet and won't be because of the tax laws that favor the rich. The short fall will come from the working people as always.
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There is no such thing as Benign Fascism.
What do you consider Singapore?

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Well, yes, the neocons are doing their best to establish a savage version of fascism, but that doesn't mean a benign one is imossible.
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Given the insane cost of health insurance, the plan to force people to carry it would pretty much wipe out the what's left of the middle class and drive them into the lower class.

Forcing people to have health insurance is a bad idea and hopefully won't happen until long after the current healthcare system is completely re-built from the ground up.
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I wonder how much is gonna be set a side to care for illegal aliens without health insurance?
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I wonder how this sort of thing is working out for the peeps in Massachusetts, where it's already required, IIRC.
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Clinton's health care=big pay day for HMOs & Insurance companies

So we will have to buy health insurance from the comapnies that have
been giving money to Hillary?

We need single payer NATIONAL HEALTH INSURNACE. We do not need to prop up the very companies that have been screwing us with "pre - existing conditions" and for profit health care.
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