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Old 11-07-2008, 12:22 AM
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hmm i see you stuff works quite different from ours. our gouv. can go ahead and make policy, parlement can make the gouv. crash or cancel laws.
your gouv. can say i want this, and your congress can make a law of it if tehy agree.
but your president has power to stop laws the gouv. doesnt agree with, so practially that means that only laws that your gouv. agrees with pass. so that lawmaking power of your congress is quite limited. in a way your gouv/president has a controlling function over congress, while in holland, our coungress has a controlling function over the gouvernment.
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:29 AM
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Congress can overturn a Presidential Veto but yes- you are right.


The idea is that the separate branches balance one another- Stop one branch from having too much power.


Sometimes this has downsides- too much arguing amongst each other- nothing gets done- too much work towards a similar agenda means a lack of checks to the power of the other branches. This means the three branches can act as one giant branch undermining the plan to slow the power of the government over the people (a danger with the current set up)


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Old 11-07-2008, 12:30 AM
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Unofficially America has developed a 4th branch- The Media
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:57 AM
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Its the Internet, BayBee.
That's why so many people were aware there were candidates other than Obama and McCain
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so can bush still make laws and do important stuff? in Holland, the gouv. becomes demissionair after an election, meaning they can only take care of urgent and every day stuff, no more big stuff.
Oki. presidents do not make laws in this country. Congress does.

Our president does not relinquish any duties to the president elect untill January 20th Obastards first day as president. Until then Obastard is just an observer. He does get national security briefings and can plot the color scheme of the whitehouse. But he doesn't get the codes to put his finger on the button until sworn in.
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good, i was just wandering, mr.L.

faye, yea, i can see how that could possibly frustrate things.. then again, our system takes a little cooperation from all sides, if someone wants to frustrate things here and have enough parlement seats, they can just bring the whole thing down and force new elections. which is usually great i think, but sometimes a waste of time and money.
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didnt he invent it too?
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You're thinking of Al Gore, who so far has only invented global warming hysteria.
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