The Ultimate Global Warming Thread

[boedicca]

Here is the future star of "An Inconvenient Truth Part Deux"; one suspects that Gore's people are currently in discussions with his people.

A former Canadian defense minister is demanding governments worldwide disclose and use secret alien technologies obtained in alleged UFO crashes to stem climate change, a local paper said Wednesday.

"I would like to see what (alien) technology there might be that could eliminate the burning of fossil fuels within a generation ... that could be a way to save our planet," Paul Hellyer, 83, told the Ottawa Citizen.

Alien spacecrafts would have traveled vast distances to reach Earth, and so must be equipped with advanced propulsion systems or used exceptional fuels, he told the newspaper.

Such alien technologies could offer humanity alternatives to fossil fuels, he said, pointing to the enigmatic 1947 incident in Roswell, New Mexico -- which has become a shrine for UFO believers -- as an example of alien contact.

"We need to persuade governments to come clean on what they know. Some of us suspect they know quite a lot, and it might be enough to save our planet if applied quickly enough," he said.

Hellyer became defense minister in former prime minister Lester Pearson's cabinet in 1963, and oversaw the controversial integration and unifi***ion of Canada's army, air force and navy into the Canadian Forces.

He shocked Canadians in September 2005 by announcing he once saw a UFO.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070228...o_070228180440

[Sebastian]

Originally Posted by hadit

There is no greater incentive to innovate than increasing prices. One of the reasons we have more oil available to us now than we had before is that it was not economical to extract at lower prices. We leave large amounts of oil in every field for that reason.

You are correct but you also omit that the reason extracting this oil isn't economical is also because it is not feasible. Advances in deep-well drilling technology have enabled us to extract oil that was impossible to get at until just a few years ago. A new, $500 million platform was recently launched in the Gulf of Mexico that can tap recently-discovered oil fields in water over 7,000' deep (drilling several miles into the Earth's crust, for a total of 28,000' of pipe). This represents a degree of difficulty orders of magnitude greater than standard offshore drills, and it won't get any cheaper.

Originally Posted by hadit

As prices rise, it becomes more economical to extract.

This is arguable. The high cost of extraction will justify correspondingly higher prices, but I wouldn't call it more economical to get it, just potentially more profitable. Keep in mind the basic axiom of pricing in the marketplace: you can charge what the market will bear, but eventually you reach a ceiling above which your product will not sell.

Originally Posted by hadit

...As oil becomes more expensive, there will be a point at which the wahabbis will see a leveling off of income and ultimately reductions, because we will have switched from petroleum as our primary source of energy.

I would think our national security issues demand we start "leveling off" the wahabbists' income now instead of waiting for the market to do it for us...what is this, free-market capitalism will save us from terrorists?

[Java]

Originally Posted by hadit

As oil becomes more expensive, there will be a point at which the wahabbis will see a leveling off of income and ultimately reductions, because we will have switched from petroleum as our primary source of energy.

So ... where is that "point" ... and how many more billions of petrobucks will be sent to wahhabis until their income is "ultimately reduced" ?

[hadit]

Originally Posted by Sebastian

I would think our national security issues demand we start "leveling off" the wahabbists' income now instead of waiting for the market to do it for us...what is this, free-market capitalism will save us from terrorists?

Hence my desire for an American president to pull a JFK and have us exploit every possible energy source at our disposal. I've posted this elsewhere, but it only makes sense. We have sources of energy available, they're just not politically correct to use. I firmly believe that an "Apollo" program could see us largely energy independent in 10 years, and switching to non-petroleum sources in 30.

[SAMSON]

Originally Posted by hadit

Hence my desire for an American president to pull a JFK and have us exploit every possible energy source at our disposal. I've posted this elsewhere, but it only makes sense. We have sources of energy available, they're just not politically correct to use. I firmly believe that an "Apollo" program could see us largely energy independent in 10 years, and switching to non-petroleum sources in 30.

There is a US Department of Energy.

I'm sure they're doing something.



(my first use of dancing-pickle-smilie. I'm gonna use it for sardonic comments!)

[boedicca]

They ARE!

They moved up Daylight Savings time to March 11th so we can have more light in the evening and use less of the precious electricity so that Gore can continue to overconsume by purchasing Carbon Indulgences.

Anybody with an older computer will most likely have a mini Y2K issue.

[SAMSON]

Originally Posted by boedicca

They ARE!

SEE, and I thought they were completely useless.

[Powerboss]

And yet another former GW Hysteric steps forward and changes his mind, based on the science.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...5-fc28f14da388

[hadit]

Originally Posted by Powerboss

And yet another former GW Hysteric steps forward and changes his mind, based on the science.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...5-fc28f14da388

He's going to get creamed.

*waits for the fireworks to start*

[Powerboss]

Originally Posted by hadit

He's going to get creamed.

*waits for the fireworks to start*

You are right. Once someone ceases to be a useful idiot for the left they savage them.