﻿<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>DebateAnything.com / Debate Lounge / Politics </title><generator>InstantForum.NET v4.1.4</generator><description>DebateAnything.com</description><link>http://www.debateanything.com/</link><webMaster>webmaster@debateanything.com</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:03:41 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>Protestors to burn effigy of Pelosi and Perrilielo</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic247777-6-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;A title="Permanent Link: Tea Party organizer vows to burn Pelosi and Perriello in effigy" href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/13/tea-party-leader-vows-to-burn-pelosi-and-perriello-in-effigy/" rel=bookmark _extended="true"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#004276&gt;Tea Party organizer vows to burn Pelosi and Perriello in effigy&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P _extended="true"&gt;&lt;STRONG _extended="true"&gt;WASHINGTON (CNN) –&lt;/STRONG&gt; The organizer of a "Tea Party" protest in Virginia says he intends to move forward with plans to burn House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Tom Perriello in effigy next weekend at a rally to protest Democratic health care legislation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P _extended="true"&gt;The event is scheduled for next Saturday in Danville, which borders North Carolina and sits at the southern end of Perriello's congressional district. Perriello, a Democrat, narrowly won his House seat in 2008 and is considered a top target of Congressional Republicans in next year's midterm elections.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P _extended="true"&gt;When news of the rally surfaced Friday, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Chris Van Hollen condemned the plans as "shocking and despicable." &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P _extended="true"&gt;But Nigel Coleman, the organizer of the Tea Party, told CNN he doesn't see what all the fuss is about. The attention, he said, should be on the Democratic plans to overhaul the health care system.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P _extended="true"&gt;"We're not going to actually set Perriello on fire or Mrs. Pelosi on fire," Coleman said. "But we have been trying to months to get our point across just how vehemently we are opposed to this health care legislation. For the House vote to come so close and to know that Mr. Perriello is on the other side, it's a kick in the stomach that a lot of people couldn't take."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P _extended="true"&gt;Coleman said none of Perriello's potential Republican challengers have been invited to the event, which he expects will draw about 100 people.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P _extended="true"&gt;"Something shocking and despicable is how they've handled this health care legislation," Coleman said, responding to Van Hollen's statement. "Going behind closed doors, writing a bill that is going to fundamentally change what America is. More people are going to be killed by this health care legislation than this bonfire."</description><pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:29:56 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Don't Tread On Me Bitches</dc:creator></item><item><title>Dutch Prime Minister Grilled Over Bilderberg</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic245672-6-1.aspx</link><description>A Dutch Member of Parliament has formally petitioned Prime Minister Jan-Peter Balkenende and his European Affairs Minister Frans Timmermans concerning their involvement with the Bilderberg Group, citing an article released by Prison Planet last week.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“In his web log on May 13, Member of Parliament of the Socialist Party, Harry van Bommel, refers to, and footnotes, (Paul Joseph) Watson’s article on information confided to Bilderberg researcher Daniel Estulin concerning the agenda of the secretive meeting,” writes Jurriaan Maessen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prime Minister Balkenende attended the Bilderberg Group conference in Washington DC last year, before meeting with President Bush, along with Queen Beatrix and her son William-Alexander. Queen Beatrix is a regular attendee of the elitist confab and was photographed by our reporters arriving at Bilderberg last year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In our original May 6 article, we reported on Bilderberg’s leaked agenda for 2009, which according to investigative journalist Estulin was weighted heavily around the economy and whether Bilderberg would pursue, “Either a prolonged, agonizing depression that dooms the world to decades of stagnation, decline and poverty … or an intense-but-shorter depression that paves the way for a new sustainable economic world order, with less sovereignty but more efficiency.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The agenda also spoke of efforts to be made to discredit anti-EU activists in anticipation of another Irish referendum on the Lisbon Treaty later this year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to Estulin, “One of their concerns is addressing and neutralizing the anti-Lisbon treaty movement called “Libertas” led by Declan Ganley. One of the Bilderberger planned moves is to use a whispering campaign in the US media suggesting that Ganley is being funded by arms dealers in the US linked to the US military.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In his written request, van Bommel demands answers on the Dutch cabinet’s position regarding Bilderberg as well as a clarification of their stance on the purported plans to discredit Ganley.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to Maessen’s translation, van Bommel writes, “From the leaked agenda we learn that there will be discussed how to deal with the anti-Lisbon movement ‘Libertas’ through a slander campaign against its leader Declan Ganley. It remains a serious setback for the elite, not just the European elite, that the treaty has still not been ratified’, Van Bommel explains. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;‘They wish for a more powerful European Union, even it is realised through undemocratic games. Considering the regularly attendance of our royal house and ministers, I have asked Prime Minister Balkenende and Minister for European Affairs Timmermans to have the political participants withstand such a slander campaign.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Van Bommel follows this with a full list of questions for Balkenende and Timmermans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1- Are you aware that from May 14 to 17 2009 in Vouliagmeni, Greece, the Bilderberg conference is gathering?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2- Is it correct that Queen Beatrix will attend?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3- Are there members of the cabinet who will participate in the conference? If so, which members?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4- Is there a consensus in the cabinet on the participation of this conference or is this left to individual members? Is there deliberation between the Prime Minister and the queen in regards to participation?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5- Will you make public the items that will be discussed as well as a list of the participants? If not, why not?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6- Is it correct that the Lisbon-treaty will be prominent on the agenda of this Bilderberg-conference?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;7- Are you familiar with the report that speaks of the planned discrediting of anti-Lisbon movement ‘Libertas’ with the help of a slander campaign against its leader Declan Ganley? Are you willing to request of Queen Beatrix or political participants from the Netherlands to withstand any such slander campaign?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is another example of how the Internet can pierce through the international media blackout on Bilderberg and lead to hard questions being asked of world leaders in major European parliaments like the Netherlands.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We wait with anticipation as to whether or not the Dutch Prime Minister will be forced to answer van Bommel’s questions regarding his involvement with Bilderberg. Previous questions in the British House of Commons directed towards MP’s as well as former Prime Minister Tony Blair have led to little more than half-truths and lies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1999, responding to a question about if he planned to attend the Bilderberg meeting in Portugal that year, Tony Blair claimed that, “There is no formal representation by the UK Government,” at Bilderberg Group meetings despite the fact that MP’s for both major political parties in Britain routinely attend Bilderberg.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blair brazenly lied in front of Parliament again in October 2006 when, in response to a question regarding Bilderberg by MP Norman Baker, he stated, “I have not attended any such meetings,” despite the fact that he attended the 1993 Bilderberg meeting in Greece.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“If the Member of Parliament will receive any answers from the Prime Minister remains to be seen. But it is an encouraging sign that some in the political playing field will take their jobs seriously and do what every public servant should do when confronted with a plethora of the most powerful people in the world meeting in secret with no questions asked,” writes Maessen.</description><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:49:04 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Dick Tator</dc:creator></item><item><title>teddy's gone...</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic247258-6-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;A href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDVjNTcxYzFIZGY1Mjc3YT13MWYxYmU1ZjkxNBkN2E="&gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDVjNTcxYzFIZGY1Mjc3YT13MWYxYmU1ZjkxNBkN2E=&lt;/A&gt;&lt;P&gt;Never much like an alchoholic rich boy telling me how to live,but the man did stick to what he believed in.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am so proud we never elected HIM president!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dat said RIP Mr. Kennedy.</description><pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:31:34 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>john brown</dc:creator></item><item><title>Healthcare</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic247481-6-1.aspx</link><description>I'm just gonna through something out there and see how you all respond (all two or three of you).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How about everyone just pays for their own medical expenses?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You're too poor to pay?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Whose fault is THAT?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IMHO if you're too sick, and too poor to pay for medical expenses, then its Nature's way of eliminating inferior genes from the species' pool. Maybe its not YOUR fault, but its not MY fault, although, at least you can expect to be protected from being torn apart by predators before you expire.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, Mr. Obama, let me sign a Waiver: Don't Help me, and don't fucking expect me to help anyone else.</description><pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:44:09 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>SAMSON</dc:creator></item><item><title>Education</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic247490-6-1.aspx</link><description>No Child Left Behind (NCLB) is, frankly, only one more in a series of Federal Mandates the State must endure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In Colorado:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[quote]DENVER—Federal officials say Colorado is one of several states reporting that its students have mastered math and reading skills when they don't meet tougher federal standards.&lt;BR&gt;Among eighth-graders, 76 percent met state standards and 37 percent met the national standard.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;WHAT??? Less than HALF of 8th graders meet national standards????</description><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:13:43 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>SAMSON</dc:creator></item><item><title>Conservatism Going Under</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic247294-6-1.aspx</link><description>If the right-wing media is any indication of the current health of American conservatism then it is clearly on life-support, desperate for any experimental treatment that can revive it, even spending jillions on voodoo doctors and Jesus-In-A-Grilled-Cheese-Sandwich healing.  Only George Will and a handful of musty old white guys seem to even recall what conservatism was originally about.  Do today's "mainstream conservatives" recall Teddy Roosevelt, whose idea was [b]to conserve[/b] what we have?  Old conservatives pioneered the national parks system, now today's conservatives want to rip them up for oil and gas exploration--not to reduce our dependance on foreign oil but to make their fat-cat whores at Texaco, etc. richer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WTF?!  Right-wing jackasses like Beck, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, etc. get filthy rich off right-wingers' ignorance, continually yanking their collective panties in a bunch to keep everyone uptight, scared shitless, and most of all--[b]angry![i][/i][/b]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Republican Party long ago abandoned its "fiscal responsibility" stand in favor of the community pig trough, and now "borrow and spend" is a shamefully accurate description of the right's fiscal policy.  About all that unites the right is anger.  At everything.  If these dipshits at the tea parties and town hall meetings are a representative sample of right-wing joes, then conservatives are now the Anger Class.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What's going on, right-wingers?  What happened to you?  You used to be a formidable opponent, now you're just a freakshow.  A joke.  Can conservatives step up and take back the reins of their own movement?  Or are they as dead as Byron Beck's brain cells?</description><pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:02:48 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator></item><item><title>What really happened with the pirates and Obama?</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic244239-6-1.aspx</link><description>I got this email and ran it through fact check but came up blank.  I was wondering how much truth there is to it.  Sorry it's so long but I couldn't link to it.  I  highlighted the important parts, the rest is follow-up:&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Forwarded by a good friend...high ranking &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_5&gt;Air Force officer&lt;/SPAN&gt; (ret) and golfer &lt;BR&gt;who we met when he was in charge of training Taiwanese pilots to  fly the F-15's, the US had sold them.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking &lt;BR&gt;why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1. BHO wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 &lt;BR&gt;hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.&lt;BR&gt;2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they &lt;BR&gt;couldn't do anything unless the hostage's life was in "imminent" danger&lt;BR&gt;3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted &lt;BR&gt;in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction&lt;BR&gt;4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire &lt;BR&gt;was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at&lt;BR&gt;the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.&lt;BR&gt;5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN &lt;BR&gt;and SEAL teams&lt;BR&gt;6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies&lt;BR&gt;7. BHO immediately claims credit for his "daring and decisive" behaviour. &lt;BR&gt;As usual with him, it's BS.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR&gt;So per our last email thread, I'm downgrading Oohbaby's performace to D-. &lt;BR&gt;Only reason it's not an F is that the hostage survived.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Read the following accurate account.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water of the &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_6&gt;Indian Ocean&lt;/SPAN&gt; hadn’t &lt;BR&gt;worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his&lt;BR&gt;country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison, &lt;BR&gt;enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his&lt;BR&gt;captors — and none was taken.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;The guidance from &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_7 style="CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed"&gt;National Command Authority&lt;/SPAN&gt; — the &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_8 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"&gt;president of the United &lt;BR&gt;States&lt;/SPAN&gt; , &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_9 style="CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed"&gt;Barack Obama&lt;/SPAN&gt; — had been clear: a peaceful&lt;BR&gt;solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s &lt;BR&gt;life was in clear, extreme danger.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on &lt;BR&gt;by the &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_10 style="CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed"&gt;Somali pirates&lt;/SPAN&gt; — and again no fire was returned&lt;BR&gt;and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by &lt;BR&gt;Navy personnel thanks to the combination of a lack of clear&lt;BR&gt;guidance from &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_11&gt;Washington&lt;/SPAN&gt; and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff &lt;BR&gt;not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing&lt;BR&gt;with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any &lt;BR&gt;outcome other than a “peaceful solution” would be acceptable.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_12 style="CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed"&gt;Saturday night&lt;/SPAN&gt;, the &lt;BR&gt;onscenecommander decided he’d had enough. Keeping his&lt;BR&gt;authority to act in the case of a &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_13&gt;clear and present danger&lt;/SPAN&gt; to the hostage’s &lt;BR&gt;life and having heard nothing from Washington since&lt;BR&gt;yet another request to mount a &lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_14 style="CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed"&gt;rescue operation&lt;/SPAN&gt; had been denied the day &lt;BR&gt;before, the Navy officer — unnamed in all media&lt;BR&gt;reports to date — decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back &lt;BR&gt;was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the&lt;BR&gt;NSWC team to take their shots.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and &lt;BR&gt;Philips was safe.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over the &lt;BR&gt;last week that culminated in yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration &lt;BR&gt;and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and  [1] declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put paid to questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin &lt;BR&gt;yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership&lt;BR&gt;by the inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort. What &lt;BR&gt;should have been a standoff lasting only hours — as long as it took&lt;BR&gt;the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the &lt;BR&gt;location — became an embarrassing four day and counting&lt;BR&gt;standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1240445980_15&gt;U.S. Navy &lt;BR&gt;warship&lt;/SPAN&gt;.&lt;/EM&gt;</description><pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:33:42 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>caddis</dc:creator></item><item><title>A Double Standard??</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic246660-6-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;FONT color=#bb33bb&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I had to raise my eyebrows a bit at Obama's recent "advice" to the Irani goverment.  &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#bb33bb&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;In what ways is Obama not practicing what he's preaching?  While not violent, he's rammed through unjust actions against a generally unwilling population (other than his lefty cohorts) into horrendous debt for generations to come; overtaken financial institutions, insurance companies, the auto industry; he's trying to ram a healthcare plan down our throats that would ultimately destroy the superior healthcare we now enjoy.  Something should be done to make medical care assessable to those who don't have insurance coverage, but not what Obama is proposing.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#bb33bb&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;How really free are we to speak our mind?  Not very ... unless, of course, we are in lockstep with the ideals of a small but vocal hard left group ... we MUST be "politically correct" in all things, so where's the respect for our rights?  The media has long been twisting/spinning the news dishonestly ... and yes the media are very much in bed with Obama ... other than the folks at Fox News, about whom Obama whines they are not worshiping him.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From Fox News website:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;President Obama on Saturday called on the Iranian government to &lt;U&gt;"stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people"&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; amid calls for the White House to go further in showing support for the Iranian people after the country's disputed elections.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Republicans, in particular, have pressed Obama to speak out more forcefully, as protesters and authorities clashed Saturday in Tehran during a government crackdown.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;"The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights," Obama said in a written statement.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Obama also referred back to his speech this month to the Muslim world, saying "suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. The Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government. &lt;STRONG&gt;If the Iranian government seeks the respect of the international community, &lt;U&gt;it must respect the dignity of its own people and govern through consent, not coercion." &lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#bb55bb&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;So, it would appear that Obama is not practicing what he preaches, but rather governing through coercion rather than consent.  He's put very questionable people into high governmental positions, he's established a "Court of Czars" who are not vetted, not approved by Congress, not answerable for their actions or decisions to &lt;EM&gt;anyone&lt;/EM&gt; other than Obama.  They are somewhat akin to a "Secret Society" such as the KKK or other such "secret" organizations.  Therefore, it would appear that the Obama administration is as far away as possible from being of "transparent."  And deliberately excluding one party from participation in what should be two-party decision making does not meet the definition of "bipartisanship."&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And Obama cited the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s, famous quote: "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"I believe that," Obama said. "The international community believes that. And right now, we are bearing witness to the Iranian peoples' belief in that truth, and we will continue to bear witness."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#bb55bb&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I hope he remembers all these "truisms" in the future.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;</description><pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:56:33 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Savannah</dc:creator></item><item><title>US To Trade Gold Reserves For Cash</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic246761-6-1.aspx</link><description>[youtube]6JPcimrnXGA[/youtube]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.............&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:21:02 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Dick Tator</dc:creator></item><item><title>Seeing Through All the Propaganda About Iran</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic246730-6-1.aspx</link><description>WASHINGTON – Iran’s political crisis continues to blaze. It’s still impossible to say which leaders or factions will emerge victorious, but one thing is certain: the earthquake in the Islamic Republic is shaking the Mideast and deeply confusing everyone, including the US government.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Highlighting the complexity of this crisis, Meir Dagan, the head of Israel’s intelligence agency, Mossad, reportedly voiced his hope that Iran’s embattled president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, would remain in office. On the surface, that sounds absurd, since Ahmadinejad is Israel’s Great Satan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, according to Dagan, if Ahmadinejad’s supposedly “moderate” rival, Mir Hossein Mousavi, came to power, it would be harder for Israel to keep up its propaganda war against Iran over Tehran’s nuclear program.&lt;br&gt;Besides, added the Mossad chief, the devil you know is better.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile, we have been watching an intensifying western propaganda campaign against Iran, mounted by the US and British governments. What we hear is commentary and analysis that comes from bitterly anti-regime Iranian exiles, “experts” with an ax to grind, and US pro-Israel neocons yearning for war with Iran.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In viewing the Muslim world, Westerners keep listening to those who tell them what they want to hear, rather than the facts. We are at it again in Iran.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Barack Obama’s properly stated he would refrain from being seen to “meddle” in Iran’s internal affairs in spite of calls by hard-line Republicans for American action – whatever that might be. Obama did the right thing by apologizing for the US/British coup that overthrew Iran’s democratic Mossadegh government in 1953.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But that was not the whole story. Washington has been attempting to overthrow Iran’s Islamic government since the 1979 revolution and continues to do so in spite of pledges of neutrality in the current crisis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The US has laid economic siege to Iran for 30 years, blocking desperately needed foreign investment, preventing technology transfers, and disrupting Iranian trade. In recent years, the US Congress voted $120 million for anti-regime media broadcasts into Iran, and $60-75 million funding opposition parties, violent underground Marxists like the Mujahidin-i-Khalq, and restive ethnic groups like Azeris, Kurds, and Arabs under the so-called “Iran Democracy Program.”&lt;br&gt;The arm of Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, remains withered from a bomb planted by the US-backed Mujahidin-i-Khalq, who were once on the US terrorist list.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pakistani intelligence sources put CIA’s recent spending on “black operations” to subvert Iran’s government at $400 million.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to an ABC News investigation, President George Bush signed a “finding” that authorized an accelerated campaign of subversion against the Islamic Republic. Washington’s goal was “regime change” in Tehran and installation of a pro-US regime of former Iranian royalist exiles.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While the majority of protests we see in Tehran are genuine and spontaneous, Western intelligence agencies and media are playing a key role in sustaining the uprising and providing communications, including the newest electronic method, via Twitter. These are covert techniques developed by the US during recent revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia that brought pro-US governments to power.&lt;br&gt;The Tehran government made things worse by limiting foreign news reports and arresting prominent politicians. Its leadership is increasingly – and dangerously – split over how to handle the protests.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We also hear lot of hypocrisy from Western capitals. Washington, Ottawa, London and Paris piously accused Iran of improper electoral procedures while utterly ignoring the total lack of democracy in their authoritarian Mideast allies such as Egypt, Morocco, and Saudi Arabia, that never hold elections and throw political opponents into prison and torture them. Compared to them, Iran, for all its faults, is almost a model of democratic governance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The US, France and Saudi Arabia just cooperated to rig Lebanon’s recent elections, dishing out millions in bribe money to ensure victory of the pro-US faction. France’s President Nicholas Sarkozy had the chutzpah to rebuke Iran for improper election procedures after returning from the funeral of Gabon’s dictator, Omar Bongo, who had ruled for 41 years and supplied France with cheap oil.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When Hamas won a fair and square democratic election in Gaza, the US and Israel swiftly moved to mount a coup against the new Palestinian government.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;US senators, led by John McCain, blasted Iran for not respecting human rights. That’s pretty rich after they just voted to bar the public release of ghastly torture photos from US prisons in Iraq, want secret US prisons kept open, and champion torture.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sen. Lindsey Graham, one of the dimmest bulbs in the weak-wattage Republican ranks, called for US intervention in Iran. Graham was an architect of the Iraq fiasco. Let’s air assault the warlike senator into downtown Tehran.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Über-moral Canada, which backed Pakistan’s military dictatorship under Gen. Pervez Musharraf, accused Tehran of unfair elections.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are many questions about Iran’s vote, of which incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won by 60%.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Voter turnout was an amazing 84%, putting to shame the US and Europe, where less than half of voters exercise their right.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pre-election polls that showed Ahmadinejad headed for a big win were right. All those foreigners praying for his defeat and the collapse of the Islamic government may be deeply disappointed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But it also appears there were significant – though as far as we know now – not decisive irregularities. Iran’s government has admitted that some ballot boxes were stuffed, and the speaker of the Majils (parliament), the capable Ali Larijani, rebuked certain unnamed clerics for trying to rig results. This was extremely stupid, as Ahmadinejad was way ahead in pre-election polls anyway, and very popular.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This leaves Washington in a quandary. President Obama sincerely wants to enter into talks with Iran over its nuclear program and try to convince Tehran to give up enrichment. But hardliners in his cabinet and Congress are urging Obama to seize the opportunity to further destabilize Iran.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bad idea. A stable Iran is essential to a stable Mideast. Mossad chief Dagan knows what he’s talking about. US and British efforts to subvert Iran’s government could yet blow up in our faces. And do we really need another monster crisis after Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Palestine?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile, other Mideast nations allied to the US will look at Iran and conclude that giving any democratic rights can be downright dangerous and must be avoided at all costs.</description><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:54:46 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Dick Tator</dc:creator></item><item><title>Denny Crane on Gun Control!</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic246315-6-1.aspx</link><description>[youtube]CixiDpprMec[/youtube]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.........</description><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:36:00 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Dick Tator</dc:creator></item><item><title>California Politics: Budget Bully</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic246617-6-1.aspx</link><description>[youtube]G285gAEsZF4[/youtube]&lt;P&gt; &lt;A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G285gAEsZF4"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G285gAEsZF4&lt;/A&gt;&lt;P&gt;Service Employees International Union is taken to task for bullying state leaders in the budget process.</description><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:56:55 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>CounterCounterCulture</dc:creator></item><item><title>The Census</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic246600-6-1.aspx</link><description>The 2010 Census approaches. Are you going to fill out the entire census form? Or are you going to just answer the one question needed to proportion for representative government (i.e., total number in household)? Or write in bogus answers? Or what?&lt;P&gt;As in the 2000 census, for the 2010 census I plan on answering only the first question, and thus fulfilling my constitutional duties.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What say you?</description><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:17:19 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>CounterCounterCulture</dc:creator></item><item><title>Wow</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic245923-6-1.aspx</link><description>Not seeing any yak about Obama recently, let alone derision.  Where are the detractors? on vacation? Can you &lt;STRONG&gt;afford&lt;/STRONG&gt; a vacation? Is the economy looking brighter? </description><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:22:13 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Fidget</dc:creator></item><item><title>Taxation</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic246050-6-1.aspx</link><description>How does everyone feel about the Value Added Tax?  I mean, it's being proposed at ONLY 25% for every single item we purchase.  Presumably, if this disaster gets shoved through Congress like everything else these days, it will mean that states which rely on sales tax as part of their revenue would have to relinquish it???  Surely the VAT isn't proposed to be in ADDITION to all the taxes we already pay???</description><pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 10:35:32 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Savannah</dc:creator></item><item><title>Specter shift puts Dems near filibuster-proof mark</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic244766-6-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;A href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_specter_switch"&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_specter_switch&lt;/A&gt;&lt;P&gt;[quote]WASHINGTON – Veteran Republican Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania switched parties Tuesday with a suddenness that seemed to stun the Senate, a moderate's defection that pushed Democrats to within a vote of the 60 needed to overcome filibusters and enact President Barack Obama's top legislative priorities.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Specter, 79 and seeking a sixth term in 2010, conceded bluntly that his chances of winning a Pennsylvania Republican primary next year were bleak&lt;/STRONG&gt; in a party grown increasingly conservative. &lt;STRONG&gt;But he cast his decision as one of principle&lt;/STRONG&gt;, rather than fueled by political ambition as spurned GOP leaders alleged.[/quote] &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Translation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;" I'm gonna lose next election if I run as a Republican so I better switch parties....this decision is based on principle"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;[quote]"I have found myself increasingly at odds with the Republican philosophy and more in line with the philosophy of the Democratic Party," [/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Translation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Democrats offered me more&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[quote] He added, "I am not prepared to have my 29 year record in the United States Senate decided by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate."[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Translation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Republican's finally noticed I was a gutless political hog&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;[quote]As a result of last fall's elections, Democrats control the White House and have a large majority in the House. Specter's switch leaves them with 59 Senate seats. Democrat Al Franken is ahead in a marathon recount in Minnesota. If he ultimately defeats Republican Norm Coleman, he would become the party's 60th vote — the number needed to overcome a filibuster that might otherwise block legislation.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Translation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After Franken steals his election, the democrats will have no one to blame for their failures.  Hold onto your wallet&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[quote]Specter, who has a lifelong record of independence[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Translation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A lifelong record of selling his vote&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  [quote]"I will not be an automatic 60th vote." As evidence, he pointed out he opposes "card check" legislation to make it easier for workers to form unions, a bill that is organized labor's top priority this year.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When it boils down to that 60th vote...he'll be that automatic vote.  No one bucks the Democratic party....Unlike the republican party, voting by conscience is a death sentence for democrats&lt;P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Good riddance you piece of shit</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:37:20 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>caddis</dc:creator></item><item><title>Free Ashton Lundeby!</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic245143-6-1.aspx</link><description>If the facts in this case are as this article presents them, anyone who is not ashamed to be an American is brain dead. :(&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[url=http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w93.html]link to Lew Rockwell[/url]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At some point over the next three and a half hours, Annette and Ashton learned that the men who had barged into their home were from the FBI, and that the teenage boy, who had never been in trouble with the police, was suspected of making several bomb threats via the internet. The one that brought the FBI had been made against Purdue University in Indiana at 9:05 Central Time on February 15.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ashton had an alibi so tight it could be used as a space capsule: On the evening in question he was at a meeting held in the Union Chapel Methodist Church in Kittrell, North Carolina until after 9:00 p.m. local time, a fact that could be confirmed by interviewing any of several dozen witnesses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After helping his mother clean the chapel, Ashton accompanied her to a local grocery store to buy food and litter box filler for the family's three cats. Once again, this element of Ashton's alibi – for which his mother was an eyewitness – would be relatively simple to confirm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Union Chapel church is about 35 minutes away from the Lundeby family's home. Annette recalls that the family got home shortly after 10:00 on February 15, which wouldn't have given her son adequate time to log on to the Internet and make a bomb threat by 10:05 Eastern Time (which would have been 9:05 p.m. in Indiana). She also insists that her son "went straight to bed" without turning on his computer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The FBI insists that the threat was made using Ashton's IP address. Mrs. Lundeby insists that her son was the victim of identity theft, and that he was not the family’s only victim. Her late husband, a former employee of the federal Bureau of Prisons, also had his personal financial information stolen, and Annettee herself recalls that her bank account was hacked a couple of years ago. [/quote]</description><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 10:55:16 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator></item><item><title>My dad's best friend....</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic245855-6-1.aspx</link><description>Comes into his tool shop where i work and he and my father are both hardcore republicans. Imagine what fun i have in discussing things and conversations with them! I half feel like telling them both to join this website, they would have more friends here than me! :P But really some of the same arguments are arguments i have had here. It sucks being stuck somewhere unable to leave having to listen to a bunch of stuff you don't want to listen to. Torture, i say.</description><pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:08:54 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>BridgieBridge</dc:creator></item><item><title>Extreme Home Makeover - Depression Edition</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic244839-6-1.aspx</link><description>Apparently these homes had been foreclosed on with code violations. The banks were getting fined and couldn't sell 'em. So they're destroying them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Part I:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[youtube]qvrc7x3Amps[/youtube]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Part II:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[youtube]COy1YyVUPQ8[/youtube]&lt;br&gt;</description><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:53:45 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator></item><item><title>Who you would like to be elected to the office of the President?</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132501-6-1.aspx</link><description>List who you would like to be elected to the office of the President of the United States of America. Include justification please.Obviously these lists should only include current nominees. Don't add Barbara Streisand or Leeroy Jenkins or something stupid.For me, #1 is Barack Obama (like Hilary, who's meh for me) :pIf Romney or McCain or Giuliani get in I'll be seriously upset. Beyond seriously upset.</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:31:45 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item><item><title>Obama legal team wants to limit defendants' rights</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic244581-6-1.aspx</link><description>[QUOTE][B][URL=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-090423-obama-defendants-rights,0,7827903.story]Obama legal team wants to limit defendants' rights[/URL][/B]&lt;br&gt;WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to overrule long-standing law that stops police from initiating questions unless a defendant's lawyer is present, another stark example of the White House seeking to limit rather than expand rights.[/QUOTE]&lt;br&gt;Americans thought they would have change, Americans didn't realize it would be for the worse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your constitutional right to a Lawyer won't mean anything if this gets through. And worse, have a corrupt Police Department and it can be said YOU said something that you didn't.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More police state, more freedoms vanishing, more rights taken away.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How do you like the change so far?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[QUOTE][I]“The person in custody must, prior to interrogation, be clearly informed that he or she has the right to remain silent, and that anything the person says may be used against that person in court; the person must be clearly informed that he or she has the right to consult with an attorney and to have that attorney present during questioning, and that, if he or she is indigent, an attorney will be provided at no cost to represent him or her.”[/I]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[URL=http://www.lawfirms.com/resources/criminal-defense/defendants-rights/understanding-miranda-rights.htm]Miranda Rights[/URL][/QUOTE]</description><pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:49:24 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Brian Foley</dc:creator></item><item><title>Tea Parties vs. The Warfare State</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic244437-6-1.aspx</link><description>Jack Hunter nails it. :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[center][youtube]o1rs1BZDYgo[/youtube][/center]</description><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:53:39 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator></item><item><title>Another one bites the dust?</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132529-6-1.aspx</link><description>Hey! Hey![url]http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1707881,00.html[/url]</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:33:19 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item><item><title>Huckabee and Obama</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132554-6-1.aspx</link><description>Early looks say they have it :(</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:34:40 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Fayebelle</dc:creator></item><item><title>The MYSPACE ballots are counted!!!!</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132511-6-1.aspx</link><description>Dear Ron Paul Supporters,Yahoo! News just reported that MySpace has reported that Ron Paul won the MySpace virtual poll for the Republican candidates with Barack Obama winning for the Democrats side of the poll.Warm Regards,Greg ChamberlainMySpace Moderator for Ron Paul[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080103/ts_alt_afp/usvote2008_080103140705;_ylt=AqwBSSbGgy_8Q9iIW9ShDEBB5494[/url]</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:32:20 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Fayebelle</dc:creator></item><item><title>who are you going to vote for, and why?</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132286-6-1.aspx</link><description>Don't forget to explain why!</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:19:56 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item><item><title>LOL! It's fun watching the BBC reporting live from Iowa.</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132488-6-1.aspx</link><description>Fucking bizarre.:rofl:But, it's nice to get actual news.Thank God my cable company started carrying BBC America a few months ago.</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:30:58 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item><item><title>Bhutto Coddled Snakes and They Bit Her</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132440-6-1.aspx</link><description>[url]http://www.cfr.org/publication/15140/bhutto_coddled_snakes_and_they_bit_her.html?breadcrumb=%2Fregion%2F[/url][QUOTE] [LEFT] The assassination of Benazir Bhutto illustrates the danger of politicians flirting with Islamic militants in hopes of keeping the extremists at bay or using their tacit support to stay in power.You can never make a politically expedient deal with militants. During her two terms as Pakistan&amp;#8217;s prime minister in the late 1980s and mid-&amp;#8217;90s, Bhutto supported Islamic militants because it was a way to consolidate authority while she dodged frequent charges of corruption. Bhutto&amp;#8217;s government backed the Taliban with military and financial aid as the fanatical movement swept to power in neighboring Afghanistan. Under Bhutto, Pakistan became one of only three governments in the world to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate rulers of Afghanistan. When Bhutto was forced out of office, she turned against Islamic extremists as she tried to cultivate new alliances with the West and portray herself as Pakistan&amp;#8217;s only truly secular, democratic opposition leader.The militants never forgave her. To them, she symbolized the worst of secular and corrupt rule. Undoubtedly, her assassination was the work of Al Qaeda or its Pakistani allies. She has been in the cross hairs of Al Qaeda for years. With her killing, the militants seek to destabilize Pakistan by smashing its secular political parties and weakening the Pakistani Army.[/LEFT][/QUOTE]what you dont see in the paper..</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:28:27 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>fat mike</dc:creator></item><item><title>this is very scarey to think of what lies ahead of us</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132421-6-1.aspx</link><description>We checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual. Check for yourself.Who is Barack Obama?Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was bornin Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a  black MUSLIMfrom Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST fromWichita, Kansas.Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was twoyears old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. Hismother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.?When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia. Obamaatt ended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in aCatholic school.Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He isquick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he alsoattended Catholic school."Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returnedto Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any directinfluence over his son's education.Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi schoolin Jakarta.Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslimterrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Sinceit is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking majorpublic office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joinedthe United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslimbackground.   ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office heDID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegience norwill he show any reverence for our flag.  While others place their handsover their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidentialcandidacy.The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the insideout, what better way to start than at the highest level - through thePresident of the United States, one of their own!!!! Would you want this man leadingour country?...... NOT ME!!!</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:27:21 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item><item><title>Iowa Predictions</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132417-6-1.aspx</link><description>It's close enough.  So here goes.Republican:  Fred Thompson.  Polls have been tightening lately...and the other candidates all have some serious baggage, which I think will become a factor when voters are casting their ballots.Democrat:  The Cackling Harpy.  I think she has the state locked up at this point.  Polls for the dems have remained basically flat...no one is trending anywhere, and the Clintonodon is at the top.  (which is a pity...I so wanted to see the threat of the super delegates become reality!)</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:27:06 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>DngrMse</dc:creator></item><item><title>There Is At Least One Smart Man in FRANCE</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132413-6-1.aspx</link><description>And he has outed The Goracle as a Crook.He's right.[i]Climate-change skeptics are taking a beating these days even in France, where people long resisted the green creed.Paris bookstores brim with guidebooks -- including one shaped like a toilet seat -- that tell readers how to help save our planet. Yet the dissidents refuse to shut up, even now that Al Gore has won the Nobel Peace Prize and the U.S. government has agreed to negotiate a new global-warming treaty by 2009.The most conspicuous doubter in France is Claude Allegre, a former education minister and a physicist by profession. His new book, ``Ma Verite Sur la Planete'' (``My Truth About the Planet''), doesn't mince words.[b]He calls Gore a ``crook'' presiding over an eco-business that pumps out cash. As for Gore's French followers, the author likens them to religious zealots who, far from saving humanity, are endangering it. Driven by a Judeo-Christian guilt complex, he says, French greens paint worst-case scenarios and attribute little-understood cycles to human misbehavior.[/b]Allegre doesn't deny that the climate has changed or that extreme weather has become more common. He instead emphasizes the local character of these phenomena.While the icecap of the North Pole is shrinking, the one covering Antarctica -- or 92 percent of the Earth's ice -- is not, he says. Nor have Scandinavian glaciers receded, he says. To play down these differences by basing forecasts on a global average makes no sense to Allegre.He dismisses talk of renewable energies, such as wind or solar power, saying it would take a century for them to become a serious factor in meeting the world's energy demands.Let Us Eat CakeTo his relief, France has taken another path: Almost 80 percent of its electricity comes from nuclear reactors. What's more, France has a talent for eating its cake and having it, too: Although it signed and ratified the Kyoto Protocol, the country is nowhere near meeting the agreed targets. ...[/i][url]http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&amp;sid=aVvwX1RTVGr8&amp;refer=muse[/url]</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:26:51 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>boedicca</dc:creator></item><item><title>The Religion of Peace</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132237-6-1.aspx</link><description>I figured this would be a good place to collect all those peaceful quotes or stories concerning Islam.</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:17:16 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>caddis</dc:creator></item><item><title>Political Derby</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132273-6-1.aspx</link><description>Has anyone seen this site before?  [url]http://www.politicalderby.com/powerrankings[/url]I just came across it and I find the reflections rather accurate.</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:19:11 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Fayebelle</dc:creator></item><item><title>State Of The Union</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132204-6-1.aspx</link><description>On now :cartman:</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:15:27 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Fayebelle</dc:creator></item><item><title>Huckabee Says Something Totally Idiotic</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132224-6-1.aspx</link><description>The Moron Huckabee frelling APOLOGIZED for the Bhutto assasination, on behalf of the U.SIt would be horrifying to have a GOP version of Carter in the White House.[i]With about 150 supporters crowded around a podium set up on the tarmac of Orlando Executive airport (and about 20 Ron Paul supporters waving signs outside) Mike Huckabee strode out to the strains of “Right Now” by Van Halen and immediately addressed the Bhutto situation, expressing “our sincere concern and apologies for what has happened in Pakistan.”He said the assassination is a reminder that here in the US, we are lucky to vote “not with bullets but with ballots,” and said “I guess we are sometimes lulled into failing to appreciate the magnitude” of the democratic process.After moving onto other subjects in his rally (more on that in a moment) he took questions from the press. I asked him what he would do right now if he were President to tackle the situation. He avoided taking a strong policy position, saying he would offer sincere sympathies to the people of Pakistan, and monitor who’s behind it. When asked what he thinks of the Musharraf government and how it has handled the security situation and aid from the US, he replied, “I think today is not the best day to comment on what the Musharraf government should or shouldn’t have done” though “we need a full accounting of that money.” He was also asked if today’s news highlights why the next President needs to have foreign policy, which he lacks. His reponse: “I think it’s more important to have the right principles for the American people.”He made a bad choice of words when saying the U.S. needs to consider “what impact does it have on whether or not there’s going to be martial law continuing in Pakistan.” He should have said whether or not martial law will be reinstated – it was lifted nearly two weeks ago. A minor slip, maybe, but not a subject he wants to mess up on when he is already considered weak in the area of foreign policy.[/i][url]http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/12/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry3650191.shtml[/url]</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:16:34 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>boedicca</dc:creator></item><item><title>How to improve a hillary yard sign</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132221-6-1.aspx</link><description>[yt]R3YKa6PXkfU[/yt]</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:16:24 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item><item><title>400 Prominent Scientist Dispute The Goracle's Global Warming Bogosity</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132193-6-1.aspx</link><description>Finally:  Some breaths of rational fresh air.400 scientists, many of whom are part of the UN IPCC, dispute that global warming is manmade.[i]More than 400 scientists challenge claims by former Vice President Al Gore and the United Nations about the threat of man-made global warming, a new Senate minority report says.The scientists — many of whom are current or former members of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) that shares the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize with Mr. Gore for publicizing a climate crisis — cast doubt on the "scientific consensus" that man-made global warming imperils the planet."I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting — a six-meter sea level rise, 15 times the IPCC number — entirely without merit," said Dutch atmospheric scientist Hendrik Tennekes, one of the researchers quoted in the report by Republican staff of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee."I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached," Mr. Tennekes said in the report....The following are comments from some of the more than 400 scientists in a Republican report on global warming:•"Even if the concentration of 'greenhouse gases' double, man would not perceive the temperature impact."Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology at the Russian Academy of Sciences•"I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting — a six-meter sea level rise, 15 times the [U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] number — entirely without merit. ... I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached."Atmospheric scientist Hendrik Tennekes, former research director at the Netherlands' Royal National Meteorological Institute•"The hypothesis that solar variability and not human activity is warming the oceans goes a long way to explain the puzzling idea that the Earth's surface may be warming while the atmosphere is not. The [greenhouse-gas] hypothesis does not do this. ... The public is not well served by this constant drumbeat of false alarms fed by computer models manipulated by advocates."David Wojick, expert reviewer for U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change•"The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming. The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming."Chief Meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center in Sao Leopoldo-Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil•"There's no need to be worried. It's very interesting to study [climate change], but there's no need to be worried."Anton Uriarte, a professor of physical geography at the University of the Basque Country in Spain[/i][url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071221/NATION/844993096/1001&amp;template=nextpage[/url]</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:14:50 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>boedicca</dc:creator></item><item><title>Bush's rebate plan. - Phooey. I have a better idea.</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132171-6-1.aspx</link><description>The rebates George Bush is proposing are coming from money we are going to borrow from China and we will have to pay the interest back to China on that loanScrew the rebates, they are too slow in coming and taxpayers will have to repay them in some way not yet discernible.I suggest Bush rescind all Federal income tax for a period of six months and rescind the Federal gasoline tax and bar all states from hiking their taxes on gasoline during this same 6 month period.</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:13:34 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item><item><title>Classic.  Re: Climate Change Fascism</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132188-6-1.aspx</link><description>"When the chips are down I think democracy is a less important goal than is the protection of the planet from the death of life, the end of life on it," he says. "This has got to be imposed on people whether they like it or not."[url]http://www.lttonline.co.uk/lttxtraarticle.php?uid=7064[/url]Thanks to Carl at [URL="http://www.nooilforpacifists.blogspot.com"]NOFP[/URL] for blogging this.</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:14:33 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item><item><title>Paul finally seems threatening to the media</title><link>http://www.debateanything.com/Topic132184-6-1.aspx</link><description>[url]http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/12/20/hot-seat-disreputable-donors/?ncid=NWS00010000000001[/url] Front page of Aol</description><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:14:21 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>